Ruston Town Council meeting November 7, 2011 7pm
Pretty routine:
Res 495 adopted Official Newspaper. Amid all the clatter I did not get the name of.
Ord 1344 Adopting Town of Ruston Annual Budget for fiscal year 2012 (first reading)
MAYORS TIME/COUNCIL TIME
This is where it got exciting!
Don't attend many council meetings but showed up on Nov. 7.
Cabal gone?
If you would of witnessed the arm waving and calls to shut it down (Point Ruston) you would soon realize they are not gone and still intend to inflict maximum damage and slow down tactics. Even threatening arrests and to ram the gate. The arch typical NIMBY Town.
Interesting the people on Stack Hill were not the ones complaining but one individual who lives about six blocks away and another three blocks away both on the Council.
The lights and noise are 90 feet down from the edge of Stack Hill and well away from the main part of Ruston.
This night work is rainy, cold and dangerous but hours are controlled and imposed by the EPA from midnite to 5am. This is still an EPA controlled site and Ruston has little say although you wouldn't know it by the caterwauling council.
And a funny point the rip rap restoration was all being done on the Tacoma side of the Point Ruston site.
For a fun night of entertainment and people making fools of themselves attend a Ruston town council meeting. A laugh a minute.
2011 budget deficit $306,000 Police budget $348,000 to $384,000 with support items. Makes sense to them I guess. For 100 years Ruston got along with one Town Marshall, yes ONE.
What is amazing is that half the meeting is counting on Point Ruston to save the town the other half how to close Point Ruston down.
Make sense to you?
Still to come on the budget deficit:
five law firms
mega lawsuits
jail costs - skyrocketing!
Total budget deficit they are not saying. But strategized delays forced Point Ruston to start building in Tacoma forestalling most taxes that will eventually be collected in Ruston.
Point Ruston - The Destination
A day late and a dollar short.
Get the picture they are dead broke and haven't got the message.
Time to bite the bullet and begin serious negotiations with the City of Tacoma and a bailout/take over. Recent improvements sewers/street light make a merger more promising possibility.
Previous council had the right idea but were not upfront with the Town's people conducting secret negotiations and back room deals. Remember we are bringing 12-15 people along? How could they have been so right and acted so wrong at the same time?
This was a grand old Town but in the last six years has taken a serious desultory wrong turn.
I never thought I would be on this side but the longer it remains the more serious damage it can cause meaning the Town of Ruston.
More on Ruston Home blog: Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Ruston School For Sale Again?
The proverbial white elephant soon to be mothballed. Remember they sold the lower parking lot for three or four million dollars to keep the Town afloat this long. But the aged school building may be beyond redemption. Wow a mega apartment site? That would rattle a lot of cages.
It can't go on much longer. Under paid and over worked Town employees pushed to the breaking point? Serious health disability problems waning.
Give up the ghost. There are no more ASARCO freebies. Welcome to the Ruston district of Tacoma! Let's get it on, full steam ahead, with Point Ruston the jewel on Commencement Bay.
Town of Ruston officials:
Mayor, Bruce Hopkins
Council, Bradley Huson, Jim Hedrick, Deborah Kristovich, Lyle Hardin, Jane Hunt
Attorney, Carol Morris
Planner, Rob White
Clerk/Treasurer, Myriah Mesa
A tad late but better late than never.
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Tuesday, December 13, 2011
Wednesday, March 9, 2011
SWEET NOTHINGS
Ruston, WA town council meeting March 7, 2011 7pm
Short and sweet, half an hour. Way to go.
Absent Bruce Hopkins, Bradley Huson and new Town Attorney Carol Morris
Mayor pro tem Him Hedrick unanimous vote.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Lyle-
.Ordinance 1327 this is not second reading.
.Move to remove Ord 1327 from agenda.
Approved 4-0.
Agenda as amended approved 4-0.
MINUTES
Minutes for Feb.22, 2011 approved as amended 4-0.
(Note: minutes for Feb.7,2011 skipped over.)
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim-
.Overhead light on entry stairs still burned out.
.Provides a hazard.
.Offers to donate a light bulb but isn't tall enough to replace burned out bulb.
.Speakers installed to comply with ADA standards are not working.
???- Could not get name or complaint but had something to do with permitting. Will update when minutes are provided.
BUSINESS
1. Ordinance 1327 Amending chapter 5.10 of the RMC. relating to utility tax rates (second reading)
Agenda item removed earlier.
2. Resolution 485 - Appointing Kathy Brown to the Planning Commission for a term ending July 1, 2014
Approved 4-0
3. Resolution 486 - Appointing Richard Shores to the Civil Service Commission for a term ending May 2, 2016
Approved 4-0
4. Resolution 487 - Appointing Julie Martin to the Civil Service Commission for a term ending May 2, 2014
Approved 4-0
5. Establishing Dates for Code City Discussion
.Need new Town Attorney present.
.Need study session or two.
Lyle-
.Authority of Town versus City.
.Referendum had no authority.
.Questions to ask:
-What does Code City mean?
-Legal to cross districts?
-Any General Public questions?
*WORKSHOP Thursday April 21, 2011 7pm at Mary Joyce Community Center
*STUDY SESSION Tuesday April 29th 7pm at Mary Joyce Community Center
CLAIMS/PAYROLL approved 4-0
MAYOR'S TIME Absent
COUNCIL TIME
Jane - inaudible.
Lyle-
.Moved to Google apps 8-9 months ago.
.Remain with LESA
.Speaks directly to council - inaudible.
.Email archiving moved to EMAIL ARCHIVED?
(not sure if app or Town website.)
Lyle-
.Tree dedication for former Mayor Parker success.
.Thanks Beth Torbet and Karen Pickett for their support.
.Town is accepting funds for a plaque.
7:32 ADJOURN 4-0
(For full notes Disk available from Town for $5.00 I believe.)
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Town of Ruston officials:
Mayor, Bruce Hopkins
Council, Bradley Huson, Jim Hedrick, Deborah Kristovich, Lyle Hardin, Jane Hunt
Attorney, Carol Morris
Planner, Rob White
Clerk/Treasurer, Myriah Mesa
Fire Chief, Don Torbet
Police Chief, Jeremy Kunkel
Electrician, John Parker
Electricial Engineer, Mo Fesharaki
Engineer, Jerry Morrissette
Short and sweet, half an hour. Way to go.
Absent Bruce Hopkins, Bradley Huson and new Town Attorney Carol Morris
Mayor pro tem Him Hedrick unanimous vote.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Lyle-
.Ordinance 1327 this is not second reading.
.Move to remove Ord 1327 from agenda.
Approved 4-0.
Agenda as amended approved 4-0.
MINUTES
Minutes for Feb.22, 2011 approved as amended 4-0.
(Note: minutes for Feb.7,2011 skipped over.)
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim-
.Overhead light on entry stairs still burned out.
.Provides a hazard.
.Offers to donate a light bulb but isn't tall enough to replace burned out bulb.
.Speakers installed to comply with ADA standards are not working.
???- Could not get name or complaint but had something to do with permitting. Will update when minutes are provided.
BUSINESS
1. Ordinance 1327 Amending chapter 5.10 of the RMC. relating to utility tax rates (second reading)
Agenda item removed earlier.
2. Resolution 485 - Appointing Kathy Brown to the Planning Commission for a term ending July 1, 2014
Approved 4-0
3. Resolution 486 - Appointing Richard Shores to the Civil Service Commission for a term ending May 2, 2016
Approved 4-0
4. Resolution 487 - Appointing Julie Martin to the Civil Service Commission for a term ending May 2, 2014
Approved 4-0
5. Establishing Dates for Code City Discussion
.Need new Town Attorney present.
.Need study session or two.
Lyle-
.Authority of Town versus City.
.Referendum had no authority.
.Questions to ask:
-What does Code City mean?
-Legal to cross districts?
-Any General Public questions?
*WORKSHOP Thursday April 21, 2011 7pm at Mary Joyce Community Center
*STUDY SESSION Tuesday April 29th 7pm at Mary Joyce Community Center
CLAIMS/PAYROLL approved 4-0
MAYOR'S TIME Absent
COUNCIL TIME
Jane - inaudible.
Lyle-
.Moved to Google apps 8-9 months ago.
.Remain with LESA
.Speaks directly to council - inaudible.
.Email archiving moved to EMAIL ARCHIVED?
(not sure if app or Town website.)
Lyle-
.Tree dedication for former Mayor Parker success.
.Thanks Beth Torbet and Karen Pickett for their support.
.Town is accepting funds for a plaque.
7:32 ADJOURN 4-0
(For full notes Disk available from Town for $5.00 I believe.)
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Town of Ruston officials:
Mayor, Bruce Hopkins
Council, Bradley Huson, Jim Hedrick, Deborah Kristovich, Lyle Hardin, Jane Hunt
Attorney, Carol Morris
Planner, Rob White
Clerk/Treasurer, Myriah Mesa
Fire Chief, Don Torbet
Police Chief, Jeremy Kunkel
Electrician, John Parker
Electricial Engineer, Mo Fesharaki
Engineer, Jerry Morrissette
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
SEWER CONNECTION
Ruston Town Council meeting February 22, 2011 7pm:
Short and sweet. Deb Kristovich absent.
AGENDA approved as amended 4-0. Could not hear amendments as they sit on an elevated stage to the back out of earshot. By deduction:
Ordinance 1329 Sewer Bond Anticipation Note (first reading)
first reading bypassed to be heard as second reading.
Resolution 484 Town of Ruston Agreement to provide Security Services to Metro Parks to be heard at a future meeting.
MINUTES No minutes available at this time.
STAFF REPORTS
Fire Chief Don Torbet
.Completed training house burn.
.Agreement among fire fighters training better than all class training.
.No accelerants were used.
.Enough fire hoses to protect neighor houses and garage.
.Eight call last month.
.Three fire fighter applications. Doing background checks.
.Be at full strength soon.
Lyle-Question on adjoining house?
.Yellow house paint missing. Not sure if caused by pressure washing or training burn.
.Lead agency was Bates.
.Not aware of any claim made.
Police Chief Jeremy Kunkel
.Having issues with 911 calls.
.People calling office and not leaving a message. Hear about days later.
.People should dial 911 if an emergency in progress.
.Non emergency call 253-798-4721.
.Office phone 253-761-0272.
.Non emergency call residents on vacation, garage door open and vehicle in driveway. Turned out to be son of owner moving furniture. They were very greatful for police investigation and neighbor watching out for absent owner.
.Go cart caught on fire leaky gas line.
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim-Cannot hear all council persons. Have had several months to comply with ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) standards. Speakers placed at front of stage are not functioning.
Sherri-Thanked fire department for training burn. Saw truck in meridian unloading huge beautiful tree. Thanked Bradley for his assistance and volunteer maintenance.
BUSINESS
Ordinance 1329 Sewer Bond Anticipation Note (first reading)
Bradley motion Jim second to bypass first reading passes 4-0
Bradley motion Jim Second to pass Ord. 1329 as second reading.
David Thompson, K and L Gates, bond counsel:
.This is a long term low interest USDA loan from the Department of Agriculture.
.Town must get private financing for construction.
.Tonight you are approving a promissory note to US Bank to pay cost of contract.
.No interst will be charged until money used.
.Interest rate variable at 84 percent of prime rate.
.Basically approving long term financing.
.Bond approval expires March 1st.
.Need to get this done before deadline and deliver to bank.
Jane-this is a 24 month loan?
.Bank will extend.
Jane-have to setup a note fund? How much?
.No pre pay just for accounting purposes.
Lyle-Interest on short term loan two year maturity. How is interest accrued?
.Interest rate changes month by month. Each draw payable over 60 months.
Jim-Administration fee? Fixed rate not available?
.Not sure if allowed.
Bruce-Commercial note?
(Please note I cannot hear all that is said even though in the front row. Please verify details or questions with Mayor or Council person. Doing the best I can.)
Mayor-We are waiving first reading therefore must pass 4-0.
Passes 4-0.
To read entire Ordinance 1329 on Town website click here.
Resolution 483 - Recognizing a Tree Dedication Ceremony Honoring Past Mayor Phil Parker
Lyle-
.Pre dedication ceremony by Patty Mannie.
.Appreciate time and effort by Bradley to pick tree and location.
.Mayor Bruce Hopkins also dedicated his time.
.Thanks to both of them.
.Three people in Town on Committee: Karen Picket (former council person under Mayor Phil Parker), Beth Torbet (President of Business District) and Don Torbet (Fire Chief)
>Deb Kristovich arrives to welcome from mayor.
Bradley-Uncomplimentary comment (not printed)
Passes 5-0.
Resolution 484 - Town of Ruston Agreement to Provide Secutity Services to Metro Parks
Moved to future Council meeting I presume.
CLAIMS/PAYROLL passes 5-0.
MAYOR'S TIME
.Council person Bradley Huson thank you for assistance in tree planting.
.Sewer project moving extremely quickly.
.Great legal advice, bank cooperation.
.Bank of America refused loan so migrated Town business to US Bank.
.to Lyle hardin, you are my hero, for providing extensive time and technological services to Town.
.Will be able to post comments on Town Website.
.Have an application for Planning Committee.
COUNCIL TIME
Bradley-nothing.
Jim-
.Need to renegotiate rate for Court Clerk
Mayor-Collective Bargaining agreement.
.Also garbage rates, times, pickup.
Mayor-Getting equipment.
Jane- inaudible, low voice.
Lyle-nothing
Deb-nothing
ADJOURN AT 7:40pm. Motion passes 5-0.
Town of Ruston officials:
Mayor, Bruce Hopkins
Council, Bradley Huson, Jim Hedrick, Deborah Kristovich, Lyle Hardin, Jane Hunt
Attorney, Carol Morris
Planner, Rob White
Clerk/Treasurer, Myriah Mesa
Fire Chief, Don Torbet
Police Chief, Jeremy Kunkel
Electrician, John Parker
Electricial Engineer, Mo Fesharaki
Engineer, Jerry Morrissette
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Short and sweet. Deb Kristovich absent.
AGENDA approved as amended 4-0. Could not hear amendments as they sit on an elevated stage to the back out of earshot. By deduction:
Ordinance 1329 Sewer Bond Anticipation Note (first reading)
first reading bypassed to be heard as second reading.
Resolution 484 Town of Ruston Agreement to provide Security Services to Metro Parks to be heard at a future meeting.
MINUTES No minutes available at this time.
STAFF REPORTS
Fire Chief Don Torbet
.Completed training house burn.
.Agreement among fire fighters training better than all class training.
.No accelerants were used.
.Enough fire hoses to protect neighor houses and garage.
.Eight call last month.
.Three fire fighter applications. Doing background checks.
.Be at full strength soon.
Lyle-Question on adjoining house?
.Yellow house paint missing. Not sure if caused by pressure washing or training burn.
.Lead agency was Bates.
.Not aware of any claim made.
Police Chief Jeremy Kunkel
.Having issues with 911 calls.
.People calling office and not leaving a message. Hear about days later.
.People should dial 911 if an emergency in progress.
.Non emergency call 253-798-4721.
.Office phone 253-761-0272.
.Non emergency call residents on vacation, garage door open and vehicle in driveway. Turned out to be son of owner moving furniture. They were very greatful for police investigation and neighbor watching out for absent owner.
.Go cart caught on fire leaky gas line.
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim-Cannot hear all council persons. Have had several months to comply with ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) standards. Speakers placed at front of stage are not functioning.
Sherri-Thanked fire department for training burn. Saw truck in meridian unloading huge beautiful tree. Thanked Bradley for his assistance and volunteer maintenance.
BUSINESS
Ordinance 1329 Sewer Bond Anticipation Note (first reading)
Bradley motion Jim second to bypass first reading passes 4-0
Bradley motion Jim Second to pass Ord. 1329 as second reading.
David Thompson, K and L Gates, bond counsel:
.This is a long term low interest USDA loan from the Department of Agriculture.
.Town must get private financing for construction.
.Tonight you are approving a promissory note to US Bank to pay cost of contract.
.No interst will be charged until money used.
.Interest rate variable at 84 percent of prime rate.
.Basically approving long term financing.
.Bond approval expires March 1st.
.Need to get this done before deadline and deliver to bank.
Jane-this is a 24 month loan?
.Bank will extend.
Jane-have to setup a note fund? How much?
.No pre pay just for accounting purposes.
Lyle-Interest on short term loan two year maturity. How is interest accrued?
.Interest rate changes month by month. Each draw payable over 60 months.
Jim-Administration fee? Fixed rate not available?
.Not sure if allowed.
Bruce-Commercial note?
(Please note I cannot hear all that is said even though in the front row. Please verify details or questions with Mayor or Council person. Doing the best I can.)
Mayor-We are waiving first reading therefore must pass 4-0.
Passes 4-0.
To read entire Ordinance 1329 on Town website click here.
Resolution 483 - Recognizing a Tree Dedication Ceremony Honoring Past Mayor Phil Parker
Lyle-
.Pre dedication ceremony by Patty Mannie.
.Appreciate time and effort by Bradley to pick tree and location.
.Mayor Bruce Hopkins also dedicated his time.
.Thanks to both of them.
.Three people in Town on Committee: Karen Picket (former council person under Mayor Phil Parker), Beth Torbet (President of Business District) and Don Torbet (Fire Chief)
>Deb Kristovich arrives to welcome from mayor.
Bradley-Uncomplimentary comment (not printed)
Passes 5-0.
Resolution 484 - Town of Ruston Agreement to Provide Secutity Services to Metro Parks
Moved to future Council meeting I presume.
CLAIMS/PAYROLL passes 5-0.
MAYOR'S TIME
.Council person Bradley Huson thank you for assistance in tree planting.
.Sewer project moving extremely quickly.
.Great legal advice, bank cooperation.
.Bank of America refused loan so migrated Town business to US Bank.
.to Lyle hardin, you are my hero, for providing extensive time and technological services to Town.
.Will be able to post comments on Town Website.
.Have an application for Planning Committee.
COUNCIL TIME
Bradley-nothing.
Jim-
.Need to renegotiate rate for Court Clerk
Mayor-Collective Bargaining agreement.
.Also garbage rates, times, pickup.
Mayor-Getting equipment.
Jane- inaudible, low voice.
Lyle-nothing
Deb-nothing
ADJOURN AT 7:40pm. Motion passes 5-0.
Town of Ruston officials:
Mayor, Bruce Hopkins
Council, Bradley Huson, Jim Hedrick, Deborah Kristovich, Lyle Hardin, Jane Hunt
Attorney, Carol Morris
Planner, Rob White
Clerk/Treasurer, Myriah Mesa
Fire Chief, Don Torbet
Police Chief, Jeremy Kunkel
Electrician, John Parker
Electricial Engineer, Mo Fesharaki
Engineer, Jerry Morrissette
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Sunday, January 9, 2011
CASINO v. RUSTON AMENDED COMPLAINT
Here we go again. So far Ruston has got by on the cheap but that maybe coming to an end with $9 million dollar claim filed plus lawsuit for damages.
Took a while but below is the Amended Complaint 16 pages:
Took a while but below is the Amended Complaint 16 pages:
Fabre et al. v. Town of Ruston
Pierce County Superior Court No. 10-2-15875-3
Tuesday, October 6, 2009
TARGET POINT RUSTON
Ruston, WA Town Council meeting October 5th, 2009 7pm:
Short and sweet with a negative diatribe on POINT RUSTON entitled ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN THE TOWN OF RUSTON?
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim Wingard - noted almost automatic approval of items requiring budget revisions with the lone exception "raises for town employees".
Kevin Moser - commented on the glare from street lights on STACK HILL. Need to eliminate glare, not considerate of town. Likes street lights on 49th street better where light is downward directed. Used up his allotted two minutes.
Dan- motion to allow time to finish, Jane second. Passes 5-0.
Kevin continues -
Provided handout of four different types of street lights.
Wayne - You need to talk to me on this.
Bruce - street lights are out for bid now. Deciding between 100 watt bulbs or 70 watt bulbs, out for research. You have access to town electrician.
Jane - lights from Commencement light up my deck.
Dan - surprised neighbors have not complained?
Bruce - they (Point Ruston) paid for lights. See no need to change no homes affected.
Note: PROGRESS IS BAD, STOP IT OR SLOW IT DOWN WHEN POSSIBLE? Couldn't be could it?
JJ - Lights needed for security purposes.
Beth - follow through like Point Ruston.
Note: I thought SAFE STREETS encouraged outdoor lighting? Apparently Ruston hasn't got the word. Extra lighting deters burglars and vandalism elsewhere.
BUSINESS
Agenda item one - ORDINANCE 1297 BUDGET AMENDMENT
Wayne - budget why are we shifting.
Bruce - so money comes out of budget not electrical reserve fund
Wayne - why not $6 thousand dollars instead of $12 thousand dollars?
Karen - will be further expenditures
Wayne - would like to approve all expenditures individually
Jane - lining up items
Bruce - access ability there anyway. We cannot know exact dollars
Wayne - I am only one vote.
David - fund transfer requires public comment
Note: big brouhaha takes place whether it is one fund or two funds?
Jane - only one fund
Karen - Karen - budgeted out of 401, Electrical fund, paying out of 402 (Electrical reserve fund). Like checking and saving accounts.
David - excess funds
Bruce - not moving funds, just allocation source. Pay out of reserve fund.
Dan - just have public comment. Nobody will comment anyway.
Jane - need to cover
PUBLIC COMMENT ORDINANCE 1297
Kevin Moser - Saves money to have MO working hourly. More cost effective than bidding out.
First reading complete.
Agenda item two - Environmental issues in the town of Ruston (Albertson)
Dan - concerned about arsenic in Town.
.arsenic extremely toxic. Source of many cancers, names several.
.soil samples taken outside Point Ruston
.EPA standards 230 ppm
.testing shows, 300 ppm and 460 ppm
.Who in Ruston is monitoring?
.EPA fact sheet, in almost all cases, shows material leaving site below levels
.Shows picture of large dust cloud, cause for concern
.Gate is in Tacoma
.Why training for creating hazardous waste
.Nobody checking
.need EPA regulators to show up at council meeting
.Independent lab in Seattle did testing on readings from public street
.need explanation
.Why I put this on agenda Have not talked to Kevin Rochlin of EPA. Talked to Citizens for Healthy Bay.
.happy to have EPA and Citizens for Healthy Bay give 1/2 hour presentation to council
.am concerned about contamination off of Point Ruston
Wayne - We need Department of Ecology too.
Dan - forced to agree, regret it
Jane - called all government agencies. EPA, Federal Government, in charge.
Need this project to go forward.
Note: public comments not allowed on agenda items so here is my two cents for next meeting.
. sounds like another JOBS FOR JUSTICE hit job
. Ruston is not the right venue to vent your spleen.
. Public streets in Tacoma?
. Tacoma annexation duo has plenty of contacts in Tacoma
. Appears to be a last minute hatchet job by departing soon council member
. no documents provided
. no proof provided
. no witnesses identified
. In my Introduction to Law class it was made clear HEARSAY is inadmissible in a court of law
. But all Dan's comments appear to be HEARSAY!!
. I have yet to determine a reason for all this vitriol except to hamstring the town of Ruston leading to it's demise
Agenda item three - Meter Deposits (hopkins)
Bruce - Only one deposit required. Holding $11 thousand dollars in noncollectable utility bills from 2006. One utility deposit given back after ten years.
Note: Aren't unclaimed deposits required to be turned over to the state after three years?
Jane - change our laws. hold owner liable not tenant.
Wayne - why was meter not pulled?
Karen - not legal to pull meter November 15th to March 15th during winter.
All - on and on, landlord tenant, no pay no rental, make landlord responsible. do not accept deposit if overdue, etc., Note: It appears they don't have a clue!!!
Bradley - a voice of reason has had enough. Let's table this for a future study session.
Note: Wow, way to go or this could of went on all night in their now familiar chasing your tail routine or the circular firing squad. Thank you Brad from those of us who have another life.
MAYOR'S TIME - nothing
COUNCIL TIME
Wayne - worried about going above $40 dollar monthly sewer charge for residents
Bruce - BofA wants money in bank despite guarantee by Federal government and three percent interest.
Jane - need to spread our money around for safety
Bruce - Need to set investment policy. Remember Bof A owns Merrill Lynch holder of many suspect loans. need to address our own policy, self financing.
Jim, Bradley - nothing
Dan - three percent loan may be good years from now.
. Need to fund up front.
. When will Copperline condos be occupied?
. When is Point Ruston money coming in?
. If funding gap what happens?
. Need to see Point Ruston building plans
Bruce - need to focus on being able to get by on our own.
. facing services cuts nobody will like.
Dan - takes off on spiel on COMMENCEMENT
Bruce - They want temporary occupancy permit.
. I go down there two or three times a week.
. Dialog schedule meeting.
. reward at end of project.
. for now we need to survive seven to eight years on our own.
Jane - wants Point Ruston timetable. When is revenue coming in?
. need to know what is in front of us.
. thanks Kevin Moser and volunteers for work on Mary Joyce community center
. in talking to Kevin Commencement not completing anything in center
David - send Notice of Violation
Wayne - people moving furniture in. We need a stop work order.
David - violation of permits
Bruce - elevator is signed off.
Note: For God's sake don't try to help out getting things completed. Throw as many obstacles in their path as you can. It's not like Ruston needs the money or anything.
ADJOURN 8:07
Note: Another council meeting another step backwards!!!
Town of Ruston officials:
Mayor, Bruce Hopkins
Council, Bradley Huson, Jim Hedrick, Wayne Stebner, Dan Albertson, Jane Hunt
Attorney, David Britton
Planner, Rob White
Clerk/Treasurer, Karen Carlisle
Fire Chief. Don Torbet
Police Chief, Jeremy Kunkel
Electrician, Mo Fesharaki
Short and sweet with a negative diatribe on POINT RUSTON entitled ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN THE TOWN OF RUSTON?
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim Wingard - noted almost automatic approval of items requiring budget revisions with the lone exception "raises for town employees".
Kevin Moser - commented on the glare from street lights on STACK HILL. Need to eliminate glare, not considerate of town. Likes street lights on 49th street better where light is downward directed. Used up his allotted two minutes.
Dan- motion to allow time to finish, Jane second. Passes 5-0.
Kevin continues -
Provided handout of four different types of street lights.
Wayne - You need to talk to me on this.
Bruce - street lights are out for bid now. Deciding between 100 watt bulbs or 70 watt bulbs, out for research. You have access to town electrician.
Jane - lights from Commencement light up my deck.
Dan - surprised neighbors have not complained?
Bruce - they (Point Ruston) paid for lights. See no need to change no homes affected.
Note: PROGRESS IS BAD, STOP IT OR SLOW IT DOWN WHEN POSSIBLE? Couldn't be could it?
JJ - Lights needed for security purposes.
Beth - follow through like Point Ruston.
Note: I thought SAFE STREETS encouraged outdoor lighting? Apparently Ruston hasn't got the word. Extra lighting deters burglars and vandalism elsewhere.
BUSINESS
Agenda item one - ORDINANCE 1297 BUDGET AMENDMENT
Wayne - budget why are we shifting.
Bruce - so money comes out of budget not electrical reserve fund
Wayne - why not $6 thousand dollars instead of $12 thousand dollars?
Karen - will be further expenditures
Wayne - would like to approve all expenditures individually
Jane - lining up items
Bruce - access ability there anyway. We cannot know exact dollars
Wayne - I am only one vote.
David - fund transfer requires public comment
Note: big brouhaha takes place whether it is one fund or two funds?
Jane - only one fund
Karen - Karen - budgeted out of 401, Electrical fund, paying out of 402 (Electrical reserve fund). Like checking and saving accounts.
David - excess funds
Bruce - not moving funds, just allocation source. Pay out of reserve fund.
Dan - just have public comment. Nobody will comment anyway.
Jane - need to cover
PUBLIC COMMENT ORDINANCE 1297
Kevin Moser - Saves money to have MO working hourly. More cost effective than bidding out.
First reading complete.
Agenda item two - Environmental issues in the town of Ruston (Albertson)
Dan - concerned about arsenic in Town.
.arsenic extremely toxic. Source of many cancers, names several.
.soil samples taken outside Point Ruston
.EPA standards 230 ppm
.testing shows, 300 ppm and 460 ppm
.Who in Ruston is monitoring?
.EPA fact sheet, in almost all cases, shows material leaving site below levels
.Shows picture of large dust cloud, cause for concern
.Gate is in Tacoma
.Why training for creating hazardous waste
.Nobody checking
.need EPA regulators to show up at council meeting
.Independent lab in Seattle did testing on readings from public street
.need explanation
.Why I put this on agenda Have not talked to Kevin Rochlin of EPA. Talked to Citizens for Healthy Bay.
.happy to have EPA and Citizens for Healthy Bay give 1/2 hour presentation to council
.am concerned about contamination off of Point Ruston
Wayne - We need Department of Ecology too.
Dan - forced to agree, regret it
Jane - called all government agencies. EPA, Federal Government, in charge.
Need this project to go forward.
Note: public comments not allowed on agenda items so here is my two cents for next meeting.
. sounds like another JOBS FOR JUSTICE hit job
. Ruston is not the right venue to vent your spleen.
. Public streets in Tacoma?
. Tacoma annexation duo has plenty of contacts in Tacoma
. Appears to be a last minute hatchet job by departing soon council member
. no documents provided
. no proof provided
. no witnesses identified
. In my Introduction to Law class it was made clear HEARSAY is inadmissible in a court of law
. But all Dan's comments appear to be HEARSAY!!
. I have yet to determine a reason for all this vitriol except to hamstring the town of Ruston leading to it's demise
Agenda item three - Meter Deposits (hopkins)
Bruce - Only one deposit required. Holding $11 thousand dollars in noncollectable utility bills from 2006. One utility deposit given back after ten years.
Note: Aren't unclaimed deposits required to be turned over to the state after three years?
Jane - change our laws. hold owner liable not tenant.
Wayne - why was meter not pulled?
Karen - not legal to pull meter November 15th to March 15th during winter.
All - on and on, landlord tenant, no pay no rental, make landlord responsible. do not accept deposit if overdue, etc., Note: It appears they don't have a clue!!!
Bradley - a voice of reason has had enough. Let's table this for a future study session.
Note: Wow, way to go or this could of went on all night in their now familiar chasing your tail routine or the circular firing squad. Thank you Brad from those of us who have another life.
MAYOR'S TIME - nothing
COUNCIL TIME
Wayne - worried about going above $40 dollar monthly sewer charge for residents
Bruce - BofA wants money in bank despite guarantee by Federal government and three percent interest.
Jane - need to spread our money around for safety
Bruce - Need to set investment policy. Remember Bof A owns Merrill Lynch holder of many suspect loans. need to address our own policy, self financing.
Jim, Bradley - nothing
Dan - three percent loan may be good years from now.
. Need to fund up front.
. When will Copperline condos be occupied?
. When is Point Ruston money coming in?
. If funding gap what happens?
. Need to see Point Ruston building plans
Bruce - need to focus on being able to get by on our own.
. facing services cuts nobody will like.
Dan - takes off on spiel on COMMENCEMENT
Bruce - They want temporary occupancy permit.
. I go down there two or three times a week.
. Dialog schedule meeting.
. reward at end of project.
. for now we need to survive seven to eight years on our own.
Jane - wants Point Ruston timetable. When is revenue coming in?
. need to know what is in front of us.
. thanks Kevin Moser and volunteers for work on Mary Joyce community center
. in talking to Kevin Commencement not completing anything in center
David - send Notice of Violation
Wayne - people moving furniture in. We need a stop work order.
David - violation of permits
Bruce - elevator is signed off.
Note: For God's sake don't try to help out getting things completed. Throw as many obstacles in their path as you can. It's not like Ruston needs the money or anything.
ADJOURN 8:07
Note: Another council meeting another step backwards!!!
Town of Ruston officials:
Mayor, Bruce Hopkins
Council, Bradley Huson, Jim Hedrick, Wayne Stebner, Dan Albertson, Jane Hunt
Attorney, David Britton
Planner, Rob White
Clerk/Treasurer, Karen Carlisle
Fire Chief. Don Torbet
Police Chief, Jeremy Kunkel
Electrician, Mo Fesharaki
Friday, January 9, 2009
OLD RUSTON HIDEOUS HOTEL
Copied this from EXIT133 commenting on "Will Ruston survive":
There is old Ruston with millions of dollars of infrastructure needed, many millions. Then there is Point Ruston a brand new state of the art commercial/residential development.
Separating them is a 105 foot bluff, one will not change the other physically but Point Ruston will definitely be beneficial to Old Ruston taxwise.
The Point Ruston land mass (100 acres) was split off from Tacoma to save the W.R. Rust Smelter operations from being taxed by Tacoma. The Smelter was responsible for RUSTon, get it, and now may again save the town from bankruptcy resurrecting itself as Point Ruston.
Given the choice Tacoma will welcome Point Ruston (boundary review commission) but they could not afford Old Ruston.
Old Ruston is living in a dream world where the RUST, later ASARCO, smelter paid all of the bills. Without them the higher taxes, assessments and LIDs will force most of old Ruston to sell out and move. At the present rate of squandering the Commencement trust fund it won’t be long.
Posted by Ruston34 Jan 9, 01:27 PM
Did anyone notice the "hideous building" comment referring to the Silver Cloud Hotel was deleted from the mintues of the Dec. 15th Ruston town council meeting? It will be an uphill, constant struggle for Point Ruston with that attitude residing on the town council.
Refer to: RUSTON UNBALANCED 12/15/08 and BUDGETLOO 12/16/08.
There is old Ruston with millions of dollars of infrastructure needed, many millions. Then there is Point Ruston a brand new state of the art commercial/residential development.
Separating them is a 105 foot bluff, one will not change the other physically but Point Ruston will definitely be beneficial to Old Ruston taxwise.
The Point Ruston land mass (100 acres) was split off from Tacoma to save the W.R. Rust Smelter operations from being taxed by Tacoma. The Smelter was responsible for RUSTon, get it, and now may again save the town from bankruptcy resurrecting itself as Point Ruston.
Given the choice Tacoma will welcome Point Ruston (boundary review commission) but they could not afford Old Ruston.
Old Ruston is living in a dream world where the RUST, later ASARCO, smelter paid all of the bills. Without them the higher taxes, assessments and LIDs will force most of old Ruston to sell out and move. At the present rate of squandering the Commencement trust fund it won’t be long.
Posted by Ruston34 Jan 9, 01:27 PM
Did anyone notice the "hideous building" comment referring to the Silver Cloud Hotel was deleted from the mintues of the Dec. 15th Ruston town council meeting? It will be an uphill, constant struggle for Point Ruston with that attitude residing on the town council.
Refer to: RUSTON UNBALANCED 12/15/08 and BUDGETLOO 12/16/08.
Tuesday, December 16, 2008
BUDGETLOO
Ruston town council regular meeting Monday Dec. 15th, 2008 page three:
Ordinance No. 1277 - An ordinance adopting the 2009 budget:
Jim H - Makes motion to approve Ordinance 1277, Bradley second.
Dan - Revenues $572 thousand, $721 thousand for employees, $1.2 million expenses. We are approaching a cliff, transfer $500 thousand out of property fund. (Here we go again, is there anything he likes or agrees with)?
Jim H - to be revenue neutral we would have to close police, garbage, parks assuming agreement with city of Tacoma. Not feasible. Budgeting, give up utilities or Police Department. We have a choice. Not exactly.
Dan - our checks will bounce. Not covering 60 percent of expenditures.
Jane - slew of utility taxes we do not pay. We need to tax ourselves. Tacoma will have no qualms.
Attorney - We had meeting on taxes, specific on taxes.
Mayor - My budget, embarrassing but necessary. All laugh.
Wayne - utilities tax would be $1,500 per year per household. Dan previously, $1,600 per year per household.
Jane - not anywhere near $1,500 maybe $300 per year per household. We are limited on increases, need every tax revenue we have. Need to be comfortable with 2009 budget then need long term plan. Revisit in first quarter 2009.
Mayor - hard decisions. There is hope.
At 8:24 first reading accepted Ordinance 1277 Budget 2009. Final vote next council meeting Dec. 22nd, 2008.
Along the way, Interlocal Datasharing Agreement - Washington Department of Licensing approved 5-0.
Ordinance 1274 - B & O taxes approved on a 5-0 vote. No discussion, no public input.
Under REVENUES - TAXES Local retail sales, use tax -
2007 actual was 117,445,
2008 budgeted was 90,000,
2008 to date 235,199 (Commencement),
2009 proposed 100,000.
Funny how the much maligned Commencement keeps coming through for the town. Much the same as the Silver Cloud hotel will do in 2011. There are those on the council still looking to deny the occupancy permit for the Commencement. The same ones trying to stop the Silver Cloud hotel from ever being built. Remember those phantom views much like the view corridor in Stack Hill. The town has plenty of money to tide it over until Point Ruston is developed if we stick together and move forward defying the Tacoma crowd. Remember one of their planks in 2006 was ridding the town of all businesses. Apparently that includes stopping all new businesses in their tracks. Keep a stiff upper lip and we will survive well into the future.
Claims and Payroll -
Bradley - can we use funds for planning?
Attorney - not an easy question to answer. Harbor fund needs to be water related.
Approved 4-0. Wayne abstain. Remember the good old days when Wayne and Bob routinely abstained, once almost shutting the town down when they didn't show up for a vote.
PUBLIC COMMENTS -
Connie - are Reinhold lawsuit costs in budget? Yes. Need to look at Fire Chief's salary and increase.
Sherrie - rebuking Dan. Hideous buildings supported town, provided well paying jobs, supported families. We need to support Hotel as it will also provide jobs.
COUNCIL TIME -
Bradley - stick around for carrot cake.
Clerk - instant correction chocolate cake.
Bradley - food bank - huge amount of food and toys, really proud of residents.
Jim H - Thanks Police chief candidates. Refers in jest to HOPKIN'S BUDGET.
Jane - thanks Chief Reese, accomplished more in less time, wonderful communicator.
Chief Reese - commentators, public and council, of all stripes and persuasions, were unanimous in their praise and acclaim for our outgoing Police Chief whose last day will be December 23rd. Her greatest achievement, in a town divided, unanimity, in their praises and well wishes. Godspeed onto your next success.
Meeting adjourned.
Stay tuned for December 22nd council meeting blog. Will Dan and Wayne agree to pay a single penny increase in their utility taxes to support the Town? Call them to find out early and comment to the rest of us.
Ordinance No. 1277 - An ordinance adopting the 2009 budget:
Jim H - Makes motion to approve Ordinance 1277, Bradley second.
Dan - Revenues $572 thousand, $721 thousand for employees, $1.2 million expenses. We are approaching a cliff, transfer $500 thousand out of property fund. (Here we go again, is there anything he likes or agrees with)?
Jim H - to be revenue neutral we would have to close police, garbage, parks assuming agreement with city of Tacoma. Not feasible. Budgeting, give up utilities or Police Department. We have a choice. Not exactly.
Dan - our checks will bounce. Not covering 60 percent of expenditures.
Jane - slew of utility taxes we do not pay. We need to tax ourselves. Tacoma will have no qualms.
Attorney - We had meeting on taxes, specific on taxes.
Mayor - My budget, embarrassing but necessary. All laugh.
Wayne - utilities tax would be $1,500 per year per household. Dan previously, $1,600 per year per household.
Jane - not anywhere near $1,500 maybe $300 per year per household. We are limited on increases, need every tax revenue we have. Need to be comfortable with 2009 budget then need long term plan. Revisit in first quarter 2009.
Mayor - hard decisions. There is hope.
At 8:24 first reading accepted Ordinance 1277 Budget 2009. Final vote next council meeting Dec. 22nd, 2008.
Along the way, Interlocal Datasharing Agreement - Washington Department of Licensing approved 5-0.
Ordinance 1274 - B & O taxes approved on a 5-0 vote. No discussion, no public input.
Under REVENUES - TAXES Local retail sales, use tax -
2007 actual was 117,445,
2008 budgeted was 90,000,
2008 to date 235,199 (Commencement),
2009 proposed 100,000.
Funny how the much maligned Commencement keeps coming through for the town. Much the same as the Silver Cloud hotel will do in 2011. There are those on the council still looking to deny the occupancy permit for the Commencement. The same ones trying to stop the Silver Cloud hotel from ever being built. Remember those phantom views much like the view corridor in Stack Hill. The town has plenty of money to tide it over until Point Ruston is developed if we stick together and move forward defying the Tacoma crowd. Remember one of their planks in 2006 was ridding the town of all businesses. Apparently that includes stopping all new businesses in their tracks. Keep a stiff upper lip and we will survive well into the future.
Claims and Payroll -
Bradley - can we use funds for planning?
Attorney - not an easy question to answer. Harbor fund needs to be water related.
Approved 4-0. Wayne abstain. Remember the good old days when Wayne and Bob routinely abstained, once almost shutting the town down when they didn't show up for a vote.
PUBLIC COMMENTS -
Connie - are Reinhold lawsuit costs in budget? Yes. Need to look at Fire Chief's salary and increase.
Sherrie - rebuking Dan. Hideous buildings supported town, provided well paying jobs, supported families. We need to support Hotel as it will also provide jobs.
COUNCIL TIME -
Bradley - stick around for carrot cake.
Clerk - instant correction chocolate cake.
Bradley - food bank - huge amount of food and toys, really proud of residents.
Jim H - Thanks Police chief candidates. Refers in jest to HOPKIN'S BUDGET.
Jane - thanks Chief Reese, accomplished more in less time, wonderful communicator.
Chief Reese - commentators, public and council, of all stripes and persuasions, were unanimous in their praise and acclaim for our outgoing Police Chief whose last day will be December 23rd. Her greatest achievement, in a town divided, unanimity, in their praises and well wishes. Godspeed onto your next success.
Meeting adjourned.
Stay tuned for December 22nd council meeting blog. Will Dan and Wayne agree to pay a single penny increase in their utility taxes to support the Town? Call them to find out early and comment to the rest of us.
Monday, December 15, 2008
RUSTON UNBALANCED
Ruston town council regular meeting Monday December 15th, 2008 7pm:
Fire Department report, Chief Don Torbet no incidents for past month. Supports residence program, remodeling residence, provides daytime support, opportunity for people who live far away, money well spent, needs support. Response time down one minute will apply for grant to pay people.
Wayne, cuts no ice with Wayne who looked out his window and saw no car parked at residence. The same Wayne who has tried to do in the Fire Department and the Town in secret meetings with Tacoma. Remember, Beth Torbet ran for council against Wayne and the Cabal. They, the cabal, are consistent: never forgive, never forget. This was demonstrated throughout the meeting when public entreaties to increase the Fire Chiefs salary were routinely ignored. Remember they cut his pay soon after taking office in 2006.
Police Department report - introduced three candidates for replacement police chief: Michael Kendoll from North Carolina with roots here, Marsha Stril experience with Pierce county sheriff department and our very own Ruston police officer Jeremy Kunkel with nine years dedicated and devoted service to the town of Ruston. Hope I got spelling right?
Thanks civil service commission, has eight qualified candidates for one officer opening out of 11 applicants. Working with selection committee: Lyle Hardin, Jim Hedrick and sector 2 Tacoma Police officer. Will bring results to Mayor Hopkins who will make the final pick. Will prepare report on priorities to Mayor for next police chief. Final day December 23rd with all our best wishes.
Planning Department - Rob White reported on Commencement. They have building permit, no violations, should not hold up occupancy. Dan wants copy of document. Jane wants copy of letter. Wayne wants personal copy of all applications and telephone call notification of all Planning committee meetings and hearings. Remember the Cabal crowd have been after the Commencement since one member complained of noise and tearing up the street. Also they gave the town $4.2 million for the lower parking lot saving the town from bankruptcy. Unforgivable, happened BC, before Cabal, not on their watch. Never forgive, never forget.
Planning Committee report, Connie Maglione had several issues commented on need to raise Fire Chief's salary. Maybe after November 2009 Connie.
Ordinance 1275 Silver Cloud hotel substantial development permit (first reading):
Rob White, Town planner, gave the staff report. Hotels are separate from commercial development per 1974 code which clearly defines which clearly defines hotels and commercial development separately. Repeat this ten times to yourself as that was how many times it was explained to Dan who couldn't or wouldn't accept this simple thesis.
Dan - in full battle mode, torpedoes away, went on the attack grilling the town planner relentlessly. For why we wonder, for naught we got. Demands to know if anyone from Point Ruston provided input, yes, to Planning commission. Shoreline management in strong terms no building within 35 feet of shoreline. State law restricts obstructing views. Demands to know how many views obstructed.
Rob - 1974 code clearly defines Hotels separately from Commercial development.
Dan - continues attack, You are jettisoning Ruston Shoreline plan, looking solely at Point Ruston MDP, Master Development Plan, cleared away others, ignored findings of fact, not looking at criteria needed, State says other things. Wow, wonder how he is going to vote?
Wayne - comes to his aid. mistake, oversight, not to include completion of promenade as condition of occupancy permit. Rob reads to Wayne it is a condition of occupancy voted on by council and planning commission. Wayne looks very perplexed, more clarification needed.
Dan - batteries recharged back on the attack. Findings, what used to be down there, hotel is better, but not appropriate, restrictions, limitations in law. formerly HIDEOUS STRUCTURE was there not right to put another HIDEOUS STRUCTURE there (Silver Cloud hotel)? Something about statute, comparison is OK. Violates 35 foot setback, yes.
Rob - NO approved under 1974 code, hotels are separate from commercial.
Dan - ominously, we (council) make decisions right? Answer yes.
Jim - hotel five stories, 61 feet on 21 foot grade. Below grade of upper town, 105 feet.
Let's see now, this has been gone over ad nauseum. Eighty five feet using the old math is twenty feet below the grade of Ruston proper. How could any ones view be obstructed, only Dan and Wayne know the answer. Put it very simply no view is obstructed. We will wait for final result in second reading December 22nd regular council meeting. Expect the same go round in the next edition of the Dan and Wayne show. Where are they going with this. It is obvious if the do in the hotel they also do in the town of Ruston. Maybe, just maybe that is what they want? My prediction it is approved 3-2.
There is more of the Dan and Wayne show tomorrow in Budget 2009 Ordinance 1277 plus Salary classification Ordinance 1276 but it is getting late. Much more, same O same O, dire predictions, obfuscation, but never an answer or solution.
Fire Department report, Chief Don Torbet no incidents for past month. Supports residence program, remodeling residence, provides daytime support, opportunity for people who live far away, money well spent, needs support. Response time down one minute will apply for grant to pay people.
Wayne, cuts no ice with Wayne who looked out his window and saw no car parked at residence. The same Wayne who has tried to do in the Fire Department and the Town in secret meetings with Tacoma. Remember, Beth Torbet ran for council against Wayne and the Cabal. They, the cabal, are consistent: never forgive, never forget. This was demonstrated throughout the meeting when public entreaties to increase the Fire Chiefs salary were routinely ignored. Remember they cut his pay soon after taking office in 2006.
Police Department report - introduced three candidates for replacement police chief: Michael Kendoll from North Carolina with roots here, Marsha Stril experience with Pierce county sheriff department and our very own Ruston police officer Jeremy Kunkel with nine years dedicated and devoted service to the town of Ruston. Hope I got spelling right?
Thanks civil service commission, has eight qualified candidates for one officer opening out of 11 applicants. Working with selection committee: Lyle Hardin, Jim Hedrick and sector 2 Tacoma Police officer. Will bring results to Mayor Hopkins who will make the final pick. Will prepare report on priorities to Mayor for next police chief. Final day December 23rd with all our best wishes.
Planning Department - Rob White reported on Commencement. They have building permit, no violations, should not hold up occupancy. Dan wants copy of document. Jane wants copy of letter. Wayne wants personal copy of all applications and telephone call notification of all Planning committee meetings and hearings. Remember the Cabal crowd have been after the Commencement since one member complained of noise and tearing up the street. Also they gave the town $4.2 million for the lower parking lot saving the town from bankruptcy. Unforgivable, happened BC, before Cabal, not on their watch. Never forgive, never forget.
Planning Committee report, Connie Maglione had several issues commented on need to raise Fire Chief's salary. Maybe after November 2009 Connie.
Ordinance 1275 Silver Cloud hotel substantial development permit (first reading):
Rob White, Town planner, gave the staff report. Hotels are separate from commercial development per 1974 code which clearly defines which clearly defines hotels and commercial development separately. Repeat this ten times to yourself as that was how many times it was explained to Dan who couldn't or wouldn't accept this simple thesis.
Dan - in full battle mode, torpedoes away, went on the attack grilling the town planner relentlessly. For why we wonder, for naught we got. Demands to know if anyone from Point Ruston provided input, yes, to Planning commission. Shoreline management in strong terms no building within 35 feet of shoreline. State law restricts obstructing views. Demands to know how many views obstructed.
Rob - 1974 code clearly defines Hotels separately from Commercial development.
Dan - continues attack, You are jettisoning Ruston Shoreline plan, looking solely at Point Ruston MDP, Master Development Plan, cleared away others, ignored findings of fact, not looking at criteria needed, State says other things. Wow, wonder how he is going to vote?
Wayne - comes to his aid. mistake, oversight, not to include completion of promenade as condition of occupancy permit. Rob reads to Wayne it is a condition of occupancy voted on by council and planning commission. Wayne looks very perplexed, more clarification needed.
Dan - batteries recharged back on the attack. Findings, what used to be down there, hotel is better, but not appropriate, restrictions, limitations in law. formerly HIDEOUS STRUCTURE was there not right to put another HIDEOUS STRUCTURE there (Silver Cloud hotel)? Something about statute, comparison is OK. Violates 35 foot setback, yes.
Rob - NO approved under 1974 code, hotels are separate from commercial.
Dan - ominously, we (council) make decisions right? Answer yes.
Jim - hotel five stories, 61 feet on 21 foot grade. Below grade of upper town, 105 feet.
Let's see now, this has been gone over ad nauseum. Eighty five feet using the old math is twenty feet below the grade of Ruston proper. How could any ones view be obstructed, only Dan and Wayne know the answer. Put it very simply no view is obstructed. We will wait for final result in second reading December 22nd regular council meeting. Expect the same go round in the next edition of the Dan and Wayne show. Where are they going with this. It is obvious if the do in the hotel they also do in the town of Ruston. Maybe, just maybe that is what they want? My prediction it is approved 3-2.
There is more of the Dan and Wayne show tomorrow in Budget 2009 Ordinance 1277 plus Salary classification Ordinance 1276 but it is getting late. Much more, same O same O, dire predictions, obfuscation, but never an answer or solution.
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